Restaurant owning alderman demands limits on mobile food truck proposal

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Joe Lake

Restaurant owning alderman demands limits on mobile food truck proposal
Chicago Sun-Times www.suntimes.com

Ald. Tom Tunney (44th), owner of Ann Sather’s Restaurants, demanded Wednesday that brick-and-mortar restaurants like his own be protected before Chicago legalizes mobile food trucks with cooking on the premises. Tunney acknowledged that Mayor Rahm Emanuel campaigned on a promise to lift the ban and
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Scott Tucker: But he’s for Wal-Mart. I am for more commerce, period. Let’s stop regulating business out of business.
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Patrick Boylan: Scott, what if there were a financial vendor that could setup outside your office without regulation, while you still had to comply with state financial and federal SEC rules? That is in essence the argument of the brick and mortar restaurants though in their case it involves insurance, trash removal, food permits and so on.
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Richard Wallace: No, that is not the argument. They fear the competition. Who said the trucks were unregulated? But they are not in competition with the trucks. The people who would line up in front of a truck for dinner are not the ones who will go into Ann Sather.
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Tom Caravette: Richard…I think your wrong about the clientle that the trucks are looking for. And the argument is just as Patrick state…why do i have to pay taxes on my commercial space and the trucks dont? How is this helping the economy? how is this moving us forward? we try so hard to build up and establish communities and neighborhoods and now we think it is ok to put those establishments on wheels where they contribute nothing but reep the benifits of the commercial businesses hard work, taxes and major investments?
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Tom Caravette: lets see how the vendors and city hall reacts to food trucks parking outside of the taste of chicago!!!! LOL
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Richard Wallace: I do not think that your assessment is correct. A fine establishment will not lose a customer to someone standing in line at a truck. McDonalds my get some competition. Does McDonalds compete with your fine restaurants?
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Joe Lake: Food trucks are legal now, except for hot foods prepared on the food truck itself. Many other large cities have food trucks with food prepared on the truck. Chicago is just far behind the times, except in corruption.
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Patrick Boylan: Richard, I’m merely stating the case I’ve heard about food trucks and for that matter food carts. I think that in every case you will not see food trucks serve areas without crowds and restaurants. Studies indicate that when people are asked about core business areas of neighborhoods they often talk about the concentration of food (and drinking) establishments. Of course they are not talking about McDonald’s. They are often talking about how a neighborhood gains its flavor from the types and numbers of restaurants. So the food truck lands there without contributing to the overall good will of the neighborhood. A good will, I’ll point out, that was developed through the resources of local merchants. The food trucks complicate providing services in the neighborhoods. As an example, I’ve heard that owners complain that after the trucks are gone they leave behind trash. The responsibility for cleaning that trash is often the financial responsibility of the brick and mortar stores. You said they fear the competition. Of course they do. And there are good reasons for that. The playing field should be level. They are being presented to the public as fine dining on wheels. In fact, we’ll see a lot of vans like the one written about by Roddy Doyle.
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Joe Lake: Rahm said during the mayoral campaign, that he may favor hot food trucks in some form. A total ban may lead to costly law suits.
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Monroe Anderson: The first Mayor Daley opposed outdoor seating for the city’s restaurants because it would attract rats. The anti-food trucks argument is a close cousin. It’s small town and narrow-minded. If I’m hungry and in a hurry, I’m not going to go to…
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Joe Lake: Ya betcha. Signed, Rahmbo
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Joe Lake: How did he get in here?
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Monroe Anderson: ‎Patrick and Joe Lake Studies have shown that a concentration of restaurants is a win/win for all because the area becomes a destination. If there’s just one or two restaurants in an area, you’re likely to go there only if you want to eat at that particular establishment. But if there are many restaurants in the area, you go there when you plan to eat out. Food trucks could easily contribute to that draw.
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Patrick Boylan: Monroe, I’m open to the trucks. I think the worries of the local merchants can be addressed. I was stating the case of the merchants I’ve talk to about the issue. I’m surprised (and I’m sure Joe is too) about how much comment there is about this issue.
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Jeremiah Taylor: All the food truck opponents need to check out forward thinking cities like Seattle, Austin, and Portland, Oregon. Food trucks are a huge draw for tourism, and they create a vibrant culinary community. This backwards thinking in opposing food trucks opposes capitalism, and stifles the economy.
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Andre Vote Green Finnynnko: Shouldn’t he ‘sit out’ this vote? Conflict of interest maybe? Yet another greedy, self-help hack in it for his own profits.
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Patrick Boylan: Again, Jeremiah, I’d like to know if you feel that way about your business, if it is regulated? Would you support having people enter your business largely without regulation while you have to compete burdened by costs and regulations they don’t have? How pure is your capitalist heart?
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Jeremiah Taylor: I’ve invited food trucks in front of my family’s cafe, so yes. We brought Meatyballs here, as well as Happy Bodega. The minor dip in our sandwich sales during there visits was more than offset by the draw they bring in, and the relationships we develop. My family has participated in numerous events at Logan Square Kitchen that draw people to a space, that creates an crowd that exposing small bakeries, and artisans to a much larger audience. It could be said broadly that they are sitting next to the competition. Although in actuality, the offerings differ enough for it to work. Proximity doesn’t scare me. The regulation argument is somewhat decent. The problem is that we need to lift the existing burdens and regulations, not prevent new entrants to the marketplace. My family imports and roasts coffee. Many people do that. Anybody can brew a cup of coffee, and anybody can roast coffee on a popcorn popper. To compete, we either do it better, or do it differently. We strive for both.
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Jeremiah Taylor: I used to work in the corporate headquarters of Yum! (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC). One of their most profitable moves was co-branding. Three-in-one restaurants became incredibly popular for them, and brought in great revenue. The more choices you offer, the more a location becomes a destination. More revenue is generated for all. My capitalist heart is pretty, pretty pure.
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Tom Caravette: But you are talking about 3 businesses that are owned by the same group…not one brick and mortor business being offset by 2 food trucks. Narrow minded? how do you not see the negative impact this has on the businesses in the area that pay actual property taxes? why do you think these food trucks are going to be in these particular areas? Because the property tax paying food businesses are established there and YES they are the reason for the areas establishment. You can call this capitalism if you want but really I think it is freeloading from the people that spent time, money, talent and TAXES to make their businesses and their neighborhood work.
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Joe Lake: Hot Food Trucks are legal. A total ban will cause Chicago to defend an in defensible lawsuit like the Felony Franks case. And waste the taxpayers money.
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Jeremiah Taylor: With Yum I was indeed talking about one company, yet each store involved in a three-in-one outperformed standalone stores. It’s not that I don’t see the negative impact, it’s that the negative impact is easily outweighed by the positives. You create a destination spot. More overall traffic is indeed divided between the competitors, but it’s much higher overall volume. In cities like Portland, Austin, and Seattle revenue has gone up for everyone. Sixth street in Austin is a prime example. There are numerous bars that feed off of each other. That scene attracts events like SXSW that bring in a ton of revenue for businesses and the city. Of course the process can be mismanaged. I simply believe we can model it after cities that are having success with food trucks. Regarding the freeloading: I didn’t fully explain how this has worked with Yum. I don’t think I was clear enough earlier, I hope I clarified that. Food trucks have created destinations in Portland, Austin, and Seattle that thrive. It is of benefit to the established businesses. This is not zero sum economics. There are no pie slices to cut smaller.
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Joe Lake: Exactly.
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Elaine Soloway: Terrific, enlightening debate. Thanks, Joe, for launching.
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Paul Christofersen: Just as long as the break dancers stay away…
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Monroe Anderson: ‎Paul Christofersen Break dancers gotta eat too,
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Paul Christofersen: Monroe: I agree! This comment is in reference to Arnie Morton’s campaign, with Burt Natarus’ help, to rid his sidewalks of those talented and enterprising, yet pesky kids from Cabrini and other places who were break dancing for spare change, especially at or near Rush and State. I thought it was as un-civic, anti-social, mean-spirited, cold-hearted and just plain selfish an act as anything I’d ever seen done in our fair city, and wasted no time or words in telling him so. So did some of his long-time customers (I’m not a steak and baked kinda guy and personally didn’t like any of his restaurants), who simply decided to stay away in protest. He’s gone now, but the memory of this unfortunate episode will forever leave a bitter ‘Taste’ for many of us…
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Tom Caravette: Jeremiah…not sure what the tree in one is but where are food trucks going to create a destination spot in the city that is not alreeady a destinations spot? Meaning are we going to see food trucks all over the place on a fri or saturday night in wicker park and have to listen to the bogus comments that food trucks add to the flavor of the neighborhood? Joe you live in wicker park…how long have you lived there and what do you say is the flavor of the area? will trucks add to the area and there for benifit the local brick and mortor businesses. Bottom line if the brick and mortor businesses are getting hurt by this new venture of food trucks…we need to spend every last dime the city has defending their interests from food truck vendors.
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Joe Lake: ‎@Tom Caravette 1. I don’t live in Wicker Park.
2. Hot food trucks are legal, and City of Chicago will lose a costly lawsuit.
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Joe Lake: ‎@ Elaine Soloway. Debate is the essence of Democracy, …
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Tom Caravette: ok sorry you dont live in the area…so you dont know what was put into these areas to get this neighborhood started and moving. Maybe you were in Lioncoln park and depaul area to know what these areas went through. Food trucks are not preparing food on the site…lets remember that part. Having mobile operating kitchens is a negative for all of us so long as the property tax based businesses are being effected..even by 5% offset. This is the same debate that property tax payers have no extra weight in the laws that effect them as the non property tax payers.
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Joe Lake: ‎@ Tom Caravette. 1. I did live in the Wicker Park/Bucktown neighborhood for 14 years. 2. Hot food trucks are legal.
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Tom Caravette: yes hot food trucks are legal. Food preperation trucks are not. Where ever you live look around and think very carefully what helped create this neighborhood and what keeps it vibrant and alive. There is not and no doubt that stationary businesses that pay taxes are the anchors of that community. Hey I am all about making a buck…but I dont agree with trucks selling what I have no doubt will be terriffic foods with out contributing to the property tax base or atleast the equivolant.
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Tom Caravette: Ask club Lucky, Northside, Underdog, Mateou, and dozens of others that helped make wickerpark bucktown what it is, if they will be positively effected by some truck preparing food outside or down the block of their establishment.
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Joe Lake: These type of truck being proposed are legal in many large cities in the United States. You will lose in court as the city will.
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Tom Caravette: right sorry i forgot the original parts of our debate..lol
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Tom Caravette: If we will lose in court as a matter of fact then why are we debating this? obviously they have a god given right to prepare food on the street and they dont need city approval. HHHMmm…Not. The debate will go on for a long time and you have to hurdle a very big lobby group the restuarnt owners of illinois…i am eager to see where these owners rerally stand.
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Joe Lake: Illinois, perhaps. Where do the Nationals stand?
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Jeremiah Taylor: Tom, the three-in-one are where multiple restaurants share a physical space. It began as KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut Sharing a building, and seating. It has been replicated by Dunkin’ Donuts (with Togos), among others.
When I said that each store out performed a standalone restaurant I meant the following: Each one of the three stores performed individually better, in the presence of the other two stores. There were instances of a 3-in-1 replacing a standalone restaurant, and the sales went up.
So, a KFC has poor sales, rather than tear it down, we remodel and add a Taco Bell, and a Pizza Hut. That KFC had higher sales after the other two were added. Why? Well, it was discovered that families want choice. During the debate of where to go, where to eat, choice is a major factor. Destinations were created that gave a family the opportunity to eat from differing restaurants, together.
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Jeremiah Taylor: Regarding the addition of food trucks to the landscape:
There are plenty of vacant lots and buildings in WPB (Wicker Park Bucktown). Yes, I live here. My family’s cafe is here as well. There’s two vacant business spaces across the street, one immediately next door. I can think of a few vacant lots people are trying to lease, in what would be prime locations to convert to semi-permanent parking for food trucks. I witnessed exactly this in Austin while I was down for SXSW Festival back in March. A similar situation exists near the KOIN Center in Portland, Oregon. As previously stated, destinations can be created. The two cities did it successfully with vacant space, and I would much rather have food trucks to look at than abandoned lots.
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Jeremiah Taylor: Regarding Lucky, Northside, Underdog, Mateou, I’ll chat them up at the next chamber meeting I am able to attend. Even if they and I disagree, I appreciate discussion. I appreciate hearing viewpoints, and mulling over them.
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Joe Lake: Huffington Post weighs in… http://huff.to/jM7izM
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John Calvin and TULIP

My friend, Billy Kangas asked me on his blog about TULIP, aka the 5 points of Calvinism. You can check out more of his stuff on his “Orant” facebook page. I wrote this in response to his question:

I pretty much agree with your take on this Billy, at least what I have read so far. I think the church in many ways has moved away from relying on scripture, and tends to rely on talking points, and doctrine. While I do not have a theological degree, I have read many theologians, and been involved in the church all my life. Personally, I go back to scripture. Of course with the specific goal of deepening my relationship with the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, and through that, man. In the past I debated various aspects of theology much more fervently than I currently do. While useful in specified contexts, some people simply can’t argue without taking it personally. I refer to no one here, as I think everyone here can handle that. I have little use for arguments that aren’t directly relied to scripture, when scripture is being discussed. I’m not saying I need chapter and verse, and I am definitely not accusing any one here of that. I simply have heard way too many sermons that have little to no basis in scripture, or cite a few verses out of context. I know quite a few pastors that have taken huge falls from grace. Homosexual extramarital affairs, heterosexual extramarital affairs, drug addiction, pedophilia, etc. Personally knowing these pastors has jaded me slightly. I am not impressed by degrees and titles when it comes to spirituality, although I think degrees and titles are useful. To return to the topic at hand, I have read much of Calvin, although it was a few years back. My thoughts:

T: Yes, as long as we are simply saying that man is unable to achieve sanctification on his own merit. I do not believe that man is incapable of agape apart from God. Well technically, no one is apart from God ever, he is the force that binds the atoms, even in the depth of hell, he is there.

U: Undecided. I could argue for yes, and no. I tend toward yes, but the fact he chose Jacob over Esau seems based on character, of course God molded each person.

L: Calvinists do not believe, however, that the atonement is limited in its value or power (in other words, God could have elected everyone and used it to atone for them all), but rather that the atonement is limited in the sense that it is designed for some and not all. Quote from the Wikipedia entry. I agree with this statement.

I: No. I believe that pain and sin are a result of free will. Both Lucifer’s original decision, and our subsequent decisions as a race. I believe free will is indeed free. I do however believe an all powerful God could manipulate circumstances to nearly guarantee a specific decision, if he so chose. I think of a child knowing putting their hand on a hot stove. Once someone is thoroughly educated about burns, few would willingly and freely burn themselves again. God can choose to display as much of his goodness to a specif individual as he chooses to. The more that is revealed, the more difficult it is to reject him.

P: No. Hebrews does not seem to support universal perseverance. Neither does Matthew, although in Mathew it could be easily argued that the seeds, and the goats never knew him. I think that Perseverance of the Saints is a nice, comfortable doctrine, but I do not believe it to be true. Regardless, historically, when faced with a reprobate, living in sin, the response from both the Calvinistic camp, and the Armenian has been the same. The person is not saved. Either they were never saved, or have lost their salvation. Most believe that both of these scenarios can be redeemed; the salvation of someone’s soul, and submission to God is my only concern in the matter.

Re Entry

The first moment was floating, drifting downward, relaxed watching the elders wading their feet in the pool. Elders? Ha, they were all in their twenties. My mother was 22. Having been inside her flesh longer than out, all I saw were elders. The face I knew rushed towards me. I wasn’t submerged for long, but the drift towards the floor was serene. A foot for every month since the labor. A rush of fluid around my flesh and I was thrust to through the surface.

Portland General Facilitators of Electron Flow

I interviewed with P G E yesterday in the Rose City. Nice position, I apparently made it far enough in the process to be in the top eight percent of applicants, even if I don’t get the job. The work would be interesting, fixing computers in house, and traveling to remote sites. I should find out the result within the next few days. I discovered a few interesting things while venturing up north for the day.
In a car that gets twenty mpg it is now cheaper to travel via Amtrak. In the simplest terms it would cost $17.35 in gas, and $7.95 for parking, totaling $25.30. If we complicate things slightly, at the new IRS mileage allowance ($.585/mile, the total cost of travel used for tax deduction purposes), it would cost $58.00 to drive to and return from P G E. My round trip Amtrak fare was $24.00. There are alternative means of commuting by buses which are even cheaper, but Amtrak was the simplest method. If I do get the job, I will most likely be moving to Portland, and this exercise in budgetary economics will close. Heck even if I don’t land the job, I might move to Portland.
I spent the remainder of the day traveling the city. I perused Koin tower, the Pearl district, the waterfront, and Portland State University. I enjoy the bohemian feel of Portland. I love Pioneer Square. The waterfront pedestrian path brought back memories of Chicago.
I decided I would rather not attend PSU. The student center smelled more of patchouli than a hash bar. (I am guessing at the actual smell of a hash bar). To be more accurate, an unpleasant merging of patchouli and homelessness. I actually don’t mine smelling patchouli, when used by those who bathe on a more regular basis than our medieval ancestors. This was simply rank. Another disappointing experience was being constantly checked out. I don’t mean in a investigate, security conscious sense. I mean being checked to see if I was ‘out’. I was constantly eyed by too many pink clad, flamboyant brimstone evaders to even count. It’s one thing to wave a team’s colors. It is much more annoying when one is on the hunt and want to see if I’m game. I’d rather not be a piece of meat, paraded daily.
One draw back to Portland is that it is difficult to tell the homeless from the hippies. It is still harder to determine if a subject is indeed, a homeless hippie. I came to realize that one could differentiate between living arrangements by the cleanliness of clothing. While hippie attire might be a twin set of that worn by one leaving a shelter, the clothes will be less likely rotting.
Overall, I came to the conclusion that Portland kicks Salem in the pants, leaving bruises, welts, and mud. The sad thing being that Salem seems not too mind.

Breaking Taboos of the fanatical

Eat this Calvin, digest this Hobbes…

If God wanted us to use the internet, he would have created humans capable of thinking up and implementing the idea of the internet. We don’t need wings, just a knowledge of aerodynamics.

Electronics are stupid

My T.V. would not turn on tonight, so I pounded on it for 8 seconds, and it “boots”. I’m watching ESPN now, but, come on, isn’t that stupid?! That’s one scenario where the movies have it right; if your Millenium Falcon isn’t working, start pounding on stuff. Be sure and remember to punch, pound, and kick with expertise.

I wish Mormons weren’t led by doctrine that leads people to a place slightly warmer and overrun by teeth gnashers

I’m trying to be nice, but Jesus, these ‘as of now damned people’ are caught in a cult. (and by ‘as of now damned’ I mean their current behavior and belief system are indicative of the damned. An existential debate regarding wether souls predestined for eternal glory can ever be referred to as ‘damned’ is beyond the current scope of this post.) I think I have a scar from biting my tongue in regards to Mormonism. Oh well, pearls and swine come to mind on occasion, maybe even this occasion. I think two millenia later people still bristle at being called swine.

“Randomness 101″

I am the king of random; or at least possible a lord. I was just watching jeopardy and my ex sent me an IM. Within a minute the last category is addressed. It just so happens that it all relates to her cousin, slightly odd. The final answer in Double Jeopardy tossed me a bit, as the answer was none other than the cousin of my ex (who I’m sort of almost in a way, re-dating) I’d like to see the odds on that. This is simply an intro on a theme, more later folks…

Resume for Open Source revision, Volume III

Jeremiah Miles Taylor
350 13th St NE #220
Salem, OR 97301
(503)269-0833
emailjeremiah@gmail.com

OBJECTIVE
Seeking an opportunity in Management Information Systems and Networking; to serve the providing company while developing my skill set further.
EDUCATION
May 2002 Texas A&M University College Station, TX
Graduated with Bachelors in BANA – MIS
MIS classes: Networking, Java, Visual Basic, Cobol, Statistics, Database Management, Web Enabled Design

SKILLS
Hardware: Fully experienced in the building of workstations, application servers, database servers, point of sale systems, and automatic teller machines from

component level.
Operating Systems: Windows 9x, NT, XP, Vista, Advanced Server 2000, 2003
Networking: Routing and security in LAN, Wireless 802.11and WAN environments
Languages: conversational Spanish

WORK EXPERIENCE
February 2006 – Present
Taylored Consulting Salem, OR
Technology Consultant
Rebuilt hardware and software of computer systems as network administrator. Including configuration of routers, network permissions, security and optimization of devices to specific usage & role
Current Consultant for: The Taylor Group of Insurance, Coffee Ambassadors, Hand Tailored Jewelry, Copper John’s Bar & Grill

June 2006 – January 2008
Holiday Retirement Salem, OR
Computer Technician
Involved in Active Directory administration, support of 1500 WAN devices. Including: Group Policy determination; addition, removal of devices from domain; account creation, deletion; setting of permissions for users and groups
Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) Administrator
Administered hardware and software building of all computers utilizing Norton Ghost Imaging
Configured networking & security for devices from Cisco router and Cisco WAP setup to client setup
In house desktop support of 250 Win 2k/XP systems
Traveled to remote sites to resolve critical repair issues, and resolve security breaches
Acted as second level technician, receiving escalated issues from level one techs
Trained temps and new hires in problem resolution and workplace protocol
Investigated employee misconduct involving ethics and security, creating reports for Human Resources

October 2005 – January 2006
National Cash Register Salem, OR
Contracted Field Service Technician
Installation, support, network management, and multi-vendor maintenance of OS and client software
Installation, maintenance and repairs of Point of Sale, ATM and other electromechanical hardware at various locations within an assigned territory.
Operated within high security protocols; including hexadecimal encryption passkeys, single use passwords, oversight of bank keys, and real time task/location reporting.

January – June 2005
Daimler-Chrysler Chicago, IL
Event Coordinator
Onsite administrator for 2005 auto show season; traveling to each show location
Responsible for operations pertaining to the implementation and design of wireless networking infrastructure & security
Administrator of server & workstation software suite on both Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP operating systems; addressed bugs & security issues
Administered data portal (.NET & SQL Server 2000) for DCX “lifecard” program
Purchased, configured, and installed new software and hardware; optimizing performance, and ensuring security of acquired data

September 2003-2005
Rodaddy Systems & Consulting Chicago, IL
Computer Solutions Contractor
Appraisal of client needs, price quotations, and installation of both hardware and software solutions.
Built servers and workstations from component level to OS configuration of both Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP operating systems.
Managed the design, setup and security configuration of LAN and wireless networks for clients.